{"id":49002,"date":"2017-11-14T08:42:50","date_gmt":"2017-11-14T13:42:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/?p=49002"},"modified":"2017-11-14T08:42:50","modified_gmt":"2017-11-14T13:42:50","slug":"ddn-story-after-the-military-finding-a-job-place-in-society-not-easy-for-vets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/2017\/11\/14\/ddn-story-after-the-military-finding-a-job-place-in-society-not-easy-for-vets\/","title":{"rendered":"DDN story: After the military: Finding a job, place in society not easy for vets"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_49005\" style=\"width: 470px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49005\" class=\"size-large wp-image-49005\" src=\"http:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/files\/2017\/11\/newsEngin.20389008_David-Morse-Photo4-508x286.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"460\" height=\"259\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49005\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">David Morse, an Air Force veteran, is enrolled in the social work program at Wright State University where after graduation he plans to find a job helping veterans.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em><strong>Excerpt<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Imagine trying to find a job when your previous one was loading dangerous ammunition on aircraft.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>That\u2019s the problem David Morse and other veterans face when they first leave the military.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cIt was quite difficult because there\u2019s no real way to transition from loading munitions on an aircraft to anything else in the civilian world,\u201d he said. \u201cNobody is looking to hire somebody loading munitions on an aircraft so I pretty much had to start from my high school diploma.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Morse completed a Transition Assistance Program in the military before he added the title of veteran when he left the Air Force.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>The program is supposed to help him and other departing service members make the transition to civilian life more informed about their benefits and better able to find a job after life in uniform. But Morse said he left confused after a dizzying array of information.<\/p>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p><strong>\u2018A lot of information\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cIt was a lot of information at once,\u201d said Morse, 35, of Dayton. \u201cIt was overwhelming.<\/p>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cWhen it\u2019s information overload you just kind of come out of there discombobulated,\u201d he said. \u201cYou don\u2019t know where to start. My main focus was I just need a job.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>The U.S. Government Accountability Office surveyed 181 military installations where the program is offered, including Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and found the program needs improvement.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>The GAO found in reviewing performance data for fiscal year 2016 that the Department of Defense needs to improve how soon departing service members complete the program. More than half, or 53.3 percent, finished the program with less than 90 days to the date of separation, missing the regulatory deadline of a minimum of 90 days before a service member leaves the ranks.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Wright-Patterson had statistics similar to the national findings, said Cindy S. Barnes, a GAO researcher who compiled the report, which was publicly released this week.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Since January 2014, more than 4,200 service members have gone through the program at Wright Patt, base figures show.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Deidra Bartlett, a 47-year-old Air Force veteran from Huber Heights, completed the TAP program at Wright-Patterson before she left the military in the late 1990s.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>The former military personnel specialist found what she learned was \u201cvery helpful and very insightful\u201d to write resumes, engage in mock job interviews and translate what she did in the military into civilian workforce parlance. The GAO report found most service members reported TAP was a positive experience.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cWhat I found when I was applying for positions was that there were a lot of employers interested in hiring veterans,\u201d said Bartlett, human relations director at Charter Communications in Dayton and Columbus. \u201cIt wasn\u2019t a difficult transition when I found out what they were looking for.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Teamwork, leadership and technical skills are some of the things that stand out about former service members to employers, she said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p><strong>Finding a place<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>But for some veterans, finding a place in society after the military can be daunting, as it was for Morse.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>After leaving Hill Air Force Base in Utah, he started as a used car salesman for a few weeks before moving to other jobs. Eventually, he returned to family in Ohio and enrolled in the social work program at <strong>Wright State University<\/strong> where after graduation he plans to find a job helping veterans.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cWe have a culture in the military and when we try to go back into society it\u2019s not the same,\u201d he said. \u201cThe reason I bounced from job to job to job was because I didn\u2019t feel like I fit into society.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Seth Gordon, director of the <strong>Wright State University\u2019s Veteran and Military Center<\/strong>, said Department of Defense transition programs are often squeezed in at the end of a person\u2019s military career with overwhelming amounts of information.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cThen when they actually need to come to school for instance, or do something else, they\u2019re frustrated because they don\u2019t remember anything,\u201d he said. \u201c\u2026The DoD is trying, but they\u2019re doing it in a way that is not actually working.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>False stereotypes about veterans, such as a stigma about post-traumatic stress for those who have been in combat, are part of the problem when they look for employment, he said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Civilian employers should consider the leadership roles and skills many former service members have despite the fact some prior enlisted personnel who may not have a college degree, he added.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cCompanies should say bachelor\u2019s degree or military experience required because for many things these people are already functioning in the military world in environments where in the civilian world you would need a bachelor\u2019s degree just to apply,\u201d Gordon said. \u201cThen you\u2019re making them jump through hoops and you\u2019re missing out on good talent.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Gordon added he has heard many young veterans express high frustration about getting needs met through the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>The VA is the largest provider of veterans\u2019 services nationwide. The Dayton VA alone, with a main campus and four outpatient clinics, serves more than 40,000 veterans a year in the region.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Even so, getting the word out that services are available to many after they leave the military is daunting, too.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Michael Schneider, a Dayton VA Medical Center community outreach specialist, travels to public events to spread the word on VA services, from home loans or housing stipends to receiving health care.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Schneider said he\u2019s \u201ca little bit surprised\u201d many veterans are unaware they qualify for benefits.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cI think it gets to you don\u2019t know what you don\u2019t know thing,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>Beginning next year, the Dayton VA plans to have quarterly open house-style events veterans can attend to learn about the services available to them, said spokesman Ted Froats.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cThere is a vast area of things that veterans may need,\u201d said Rhonda Allen-Garry, a Dayton VA supervisory social worker for ambulatory care programs.<\/p>\n<p>Read the original post at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daytondailynews.com\/news\/after-the-military-finding-job-place-society-not-easy-for-vets\/U50KwK8Uze2npw5UG1wsIM\/\">daytondailynews.com<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Morse, an Air Force veteran, is enrolled in the social work program at Wright State University where after graduation he plans to find a job helping veterans. <a href=\"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/2017\/11\/14\/ddn-story-after-the-military-finding-a-job-place-in-society-not-easy-for-vets\/\" class=\"morelink\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":21,"featured_media":49005,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[730],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49002","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-wright-state-in-the-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49002","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/21"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49002"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49002\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":49006,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49002\/revisions\/49006"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/49005"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49002"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49002"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/webapp2.wright.edu\/web1\/newsroom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49002"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}